I burp so you get healed. You are welcome. Peggy Oberthier explains.
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She Didn’t Ask for a Spiritual Awakening — It Asked for Her
There’s something deliciously ironic about the universe waiting until we’re hanging by a thread to hand us a gift. That’s precisely what happened to Peggy Oberthier, a trauma-informed psychotherapist whose tidy worldview took a nosedive when life decided she was ready for… well, everything. Forget the spiritual clichés of light and love — Peggy’s transformation began in the mud, the dark, and the utterly un-Instagrammable collapse of what she thought was her life’s path.
But as she tells Philipp Kobald on HolisticCircle’s “Spiritual Conversation” podcast, sometimes the breakdown is the activation. And what came out of her unexpected descent wasn’t just healing — it was a gift. One that now pulses at the heart of her work with others.
Trauma With a Side of Shamanism, Please
Here’s where it gets interesting for healers who’ve found themselves stuck between clinical credentials and intuitive nudges. Peggy doesn’t toss out her training. Instead, she threads it together with the quiet, insistent voice that started whispering after her transformation. That voice — the one many healers recognize but often ignore — became the compass for her new direction.
She started seeing more. Feeling more. Clients weren’t just patients — they were mirrors, messengers, and occasionally, lightning rods for something far greater than textbook psychology. As she explains to Philipp, healing isn’t just emotional regulation or nervous system repair — it’s soul retrieval. And yes, that might mean talking to the parts of you you’ve spent decades trying to shut up.
The Gift That Refused to Return Itself
What’s particularly refreshing about Peggy’s story is her refusal to romanticize it. There was no guru. No mountaintop epiphany. No singing bowls — just a woman in freefall who realized she could either fight what was coming through or let it shape her.
The “gift,” as she calls it, was not a lightning bolt of clarity but a slow, grueling attunement to an inner knowing that wouldn’t shut up. It arrived unwrapped, inconvenient, and about as subtle as a gong in a yoga studio. But eventually, she stopped trying to return it — and started learning how to use it.
Now? She helps others do the same. Especially the ones who are secretly hoping their inner voice is just indigestion. Spoiler: it’s probably not.
What the Hell Is Integration, Anyway?
If you’re a healer, you’ve heard the word integration more times than you’ve heard “just breathe.” But Peggy reframes it not as a box to tick, but as the actual work — the slow stitching together of who you were, who you are, and the parts you’re still too afraid to claim.
She speaks frankly about the way trauma traps not just memory, but energy. Healing isn’t about deleting the past; it’s about learning how to carry it differently. Sometimes that means talking. Sometimes that means crying. And sometimes, that means sitting still long enough to hear your nervous system whisper, we’re safe now.
For those trained to fix, rescue, or offer five-step plans, this is uncomfortable territory. But if Peggy’s journey teaches us anything, it’s this: the most powerful healers are the ones who’ve sat in the dark long enough to stop being afraid of it.
Dear Healer, Your Intuition Is Not a Liability
There’s a low hum running through this episode of “Spiritual Conversation” — a sort of psychic permission slip. Because here’s the truth many healers struggle to say out loud: intuition feels unprofessional. You weren’t taught to trust it in therapy school. You were taught to cite sources, assess symptoms, and never, ever, mention the dream you had about your client unless you enjoy disciplinary hearings.
Peggy dismantles that shame like a pro. Her message? Intuition isn’t a liability. It’s a skill. One that can be honed, trusted, and integrated with the clinical tools already in your kit. And it might just be the thing that separates transactional healing from transformational work.
The Map Is Inside You, Unfortunately
If you’re hoping for a roadmap, Peggy doesn’t offer one. Instead, she suggests something more uncomfortable: listening. Not to her, not to your mentors — but to the part of you that already knows. Yes, that part. The one you overthink, override, and over-caffeinate into silence. At one point, Philipp jokes that if Peggy’s knee hurts, it’s probably his fault — because their energetic connection runs that deep. It’s funny, yes, but also quietly profound: when you work from the field of feeling, the body becomes less a container and more a conduit.
Not All Who Wander Are Lost — Some Are Just Integrating
It’s tempting, in the healing world, to present as sorted. To have your chakras aligned, your branding tight, and your inner child fully reparented. But Peggy’s story makes space for the mess. The confusion. The fact that sometimes, your purpose finds you when you’re still Googling “what is a dark night of the soul.”
For the healer wondering if they’re off-path: maybe this is the path. Maybe it’s not about being clear — it’s about being honest. And maybe watching this full conversation on the @HolisticCircle YouTube channel is less about consuming content, and more about remembering something you already know but forgot how to say.
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