Meeting in the Middle: Where Spirit Lowers Its Light and We Rise to Meet It

Based on a Podcast with Kelly Palmatier and host Philipp Kobald

When the Veil Isn’t a Wall at All

The modern mind loves its measurements. If it can’t be repeated, verified, graphed, or squeezed into a tidy hypothesis, it’s politely dismissed. And yet here we are — still sensing, still dreaming, still asking questions we can’t quite smother with logic. Mediumship shouldn’t exist, at least not in a world that worships repetition. And still, people like Kelly Palmatier sit down, breathe in, raise their vibration — and someone on the other side lowers theirs to meet her. That alone tells you something: the unseen hasn’t left. We just stopped looking.

Kelly is an evidential psychic medium working for more than three decades in the energetic realm. She’s the kind of guest who forces you to reconsider the categories you rely on to feel sane — categories that crumble the moment she says something as simple as, “I raise my vibration. Spirit lowers theirs. We meet somewhere in between.”

The Age of Experience vs. the Age of Proof

Societies used to accept visionary gifts without the need for lab coats. A village saw what worked. A family remembered the one who always sensed things. Reality was personal, not peer-reviewed.

Then modernity walked in with its bright lights and measuring tapes. As Kelly put it, the scientific method made us suspicious of anything that doesn’t behave like a well-trained circus act. If a phenomenon doesn’t perform on command, we call it superstition. Yet mediumship has never promised clockwork precision. It ebbs. It flows. It refuses to audition for skeptics. And ironically, that’s part of what makes it authentic.

Philipp captured this beautifully: “It used to be the most regular thing in the world that your community simply had someone with the gift.”

We didn’t lose the gift. We lost the cultural muscle to recognize it.

The Calling That Arrives Like Weather

Mediums often describe a childhood of subtle knowing — tiny moments that make sense only in hindsight. Kelly’s story bends the same way but carries a sharp turn. She spent decades studying, training, and using her intuitive senses quietly. Then, in 2017, sitting at the base of a waterfall, she did what most of us do when we’re honest enough to ask for direction. She prayed. She asked for a sign. And she expected something small.

Instead, the instruction landed immediately: become a medium.

Not metaphorically. Literally. And when she followed the guidance — reading, meditating, practicing — something opened fast. Too fast for comfort. The skepticism didn’t come from others; it came from herself. And then came the confirmation so bold it startled her. During a reading she asked, “Is there a Ray or a Roy?” The family gasped. His name was Roy Ray.

There are moments you can’t argue with. You can only join the conversation already in progress.

The Meeting Point Where Consciousness Refuses to Die

The heart of Kelly’s worldview is disarmingly simple: consciousness continues. The body falls away, the personality loosens, but the essence persists. And it persists with choice. Spirit decides whether to communicate. Spirit decides whether to step forward.

What surprised Philipp — and will surprise many — is Kelly’s description of how it works. The medium does not climb into some lofty spiritual frequency while the soul waits passively. Instead, spirit must intentionally lower their vibration to meet her.

A collaboration, not a performance.
This reframes everything. Connection is not guaranteed. It’s not a hotline. It’s a meeting of intention between two realms, both participating in the bridge.

And yes, over time the edges soften. The ego dissolves. The illusion of separateness fades. Older generations of spirits become harder to reach because they have expanded back into something vaster, less individualized. It’s not loss. It’s evolution.

The Danger of the Wrong Light — and the Vital Need for Discernment

Where there is longing, there is vulnerability. Where there is grief, there is risk. And Kelly does not romanticize this. She has seen the manipulative tactics of con artists who weaponize grief. The most corrosive? A so-called medium approaching someone with the claim that their loved one is “trapped” and needs help crossing over. Kelly is unequivocal: this is the sign of a fraud.

Real mediumship does not manufacture fear.

This is why she created her Psychic Credibility Scoring System, a free guide to help people discern authenticity — an act of service, not self-promotion. It’s a quiet rebellion against those who prey on the unprotected.

The Work the Living Still Need

What people want from a medium is rarely dramatic. Mostly, it is a single truth: their loved one made it. They are safe. They are aware. They haven’t disappeared into nothingness. Mediumship becomes part grief work, part reassurance, part stitching together the frayed edge between here and there.

Kelly advises waiting at least six months before seeking a reading — another indication of her integrity. Early grief clouds everything. Even a perfect message cannot land inside a storm.

And yet the bridge remains available. Always. Even if the personality has softened, even if the soul has expanded, the higher self never leaves the field. That continuity is not poetic; it is structural.

The Illusion That We Are Separate

Somewhere in the conversation, Kelly offered a line that should be carved into the doorframe of our current age. Speaking of the afterlife, she explained that once the body falls away, the illusion of separateness dissolves.

For a moment, you can feel the world tilt. Because if separation is an illusion there, it might be an illusion here too. Maybe that’s what keeps mediumship relevant — its refusal to let us forget our interconnectedness.

Philipp joked that talking about sending love to departed parents might make the world think they’re both crazy. But the deeper truth is this: the world already feels fractured. The crazy thing would be to stop looking for the threads that sew us back together.

A Door That Never Fully Closes

Mediumship isn’t about spectacle. It’s about continuity. It’s about the quiet, stubborn conviction that love doesn’t vanish when a heartbeat does. And it’s about people like Kelly, who choose to work only in light, who open the door with boundaries, who remind us that connection is still possible even when logic bows out.

As Kelly said plainly, “I work only in the realm of light.”

In a fragmented world, that choice is radical.

Guest Bio
Kelly Palmatier is a full-time professional psychic medium with more than 30 years of experience working in the energetic realm and specializing in evidential mediumship.
👤 Link to our guest: https://www.channelingwhitelight.com/

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