The Wisdom of Sandwiches and Other Unlikely Teachings with Josh Tynan

Based on HolisticCircle’s Spiritual Conversation podcast, hosted by Philipp Kobald and featuring guest Josh Tynan.

Some people build empires. Josh Tynan renovated bathrooms. But somewhere between the grout and the existential doubt, he discovered something most of us are still searching for: the art of being wildly, unapologetically lost. Not the performative Instagram kind of lost — the real, dizzying, cosmic “what-is-even-happening” kind.

If you’ve ever tried to shoehorn your sacred path into a LinkedIn bio, or felt spiritually stranded between a crystal shop and a gas bill, Josh is your man. In this quietly explosive episode of Spiritual Conversation — brought to you by HolisticCircle and hosted with tongue-in-cheek tenderness by Philipp Kobald — we meet a self-proclaimed seeker without a strategy, a soul on the cusp of something unnamed, and possibly the most relatable guest to ever admit, “I’ve got no idea what I’m doing.”

Which, frankly, is the most healing thing a healer can hear.

Not a Guru, Just a Guy With Thoughts

Josh Tynan doesn’t show up with a five-step plan or an ethereal product line. No sound bowls, no seven-figure spiritual brand. What he does bring is something healers don’t talk about nearly enough: the raw, messy in-between. That fertile void where you’re not yet who you were, but not quite who you’re becoming.

He lives in Queensland, Australia, and up until very recently, worked as a tiler. Not metaphorically. Literally — laying down tiles while laying down the internal bricks of his spiritual self. Clients would offer him tea, sensing something more behind the polite small talk. Josh realised what most of us forget: people aren’t thirsty for tea. They’re thirsty to be heard.

It’s a theme that winds its way through the whole episode — how spiritual connection doesn’t need incense and incantations. Sometimes it just needs someone to say yes to the cup of tea.

Why the Universe Might Be a Practical Joker

Somewhere mid-conversation, Kobald recites a prayer to the universe that begins, “To whom it may concern…” Which is, frankly, the most accurate summary of spiritual life in 2025. We’re all peering into the void, hoping the void peeks back with a wink and a well-timed meme.

But Josh is no stranger to that liminal space where the questions outnumber the answers. He speaks poetically (and let’s be honest, alarmingly eloquently) about duality, oneness, and the delicious irony of searching for something that’s already part of us. “If you don’t experience separation,” he says, “how do you understand oneness?”

It’s the kind of line that hits like a gong in your chest — and reminds us why the spiritual path isn’t a neatly paved road but a ridiculous, looping treasure hunt. Except half the time, the map is upside down and possibly written in sandwich metaphors. Which brings us to…

Sandwiches, Quantum Physics, and the Deep Stuff

There’s a recurring joke in the episode about sandwiches. As in, maybe the answer to spiritual suffering is to become one. The metaphor begins as a throwaway line and then, like all good mystical metaphors, slowly unfurls into something weirdly profound.

Because what is a spiritual seeker, if not a layered, slightly messy, probably overstuffed construction of thoughts, feelings, ancestral trauma, and a dollop of cosmic mustard?

Josh and Philipp toggle between banter and big questions with seamless ease — like whether healing is just another illusion, or if pain is actually “a blanket that’s heavy but keeps us warm.” (Yes, that’s an actual quote. Yes, you’ll want to sit with it.) There’s even a brief detour into quantum mechanics, though they both wisely agree to leave the math to the people with telescopes and tenure.

No Platform, No Problem

One of the most tender truths in this conversation is Josh’s confession: he doesn’t have a spiritual community. No weekend retreats, no online tribe, not even a regular drum circle. He’s been walking this path mostly solo, which makes him more relevant than ever.

Because healers everywhere are quietly burning out. Not from giving too much, but from giving in isolation. Josh speaks for the millions of seekers who haven’t “found their niche,” who are still feeling their way forward in the dark — armed only with curiosity, courage, and perhaps a half-written poem stored in their phone.

Philipp notes that almost everyone he meets these days is trying to build a community platform. But what if the next spiritual movement isn’t a platform at all? What if it’s just people showing up to conversations like this, willing to be seen mid-metamorphosis?

Hug It Out, Then Take Out the Trash

Here’s where the episode lands its most grounded punch. For all the talk of inner work and metaphysical exploration, both Josh and Philipp agree: if it doesn’t make you a better human, what’s the point?

That means hugging more. Inviting your neighbour over for tea. Picking up trash by the river. And yes — sometimes just sitting in stillness without trying to fix anything.

It’s a call to action that doesn’t scream, sell, or shine. It whispers. It nudges. It reminds healers that their greatest contribution might not come from a certification, but from their presence. From how they speak to their kids, show up for their partners, and respond when life doesn’t go according to the cosmic script.

The Bit Where You Lean In Closer

If you’re the kind of healer who’s tired of pretending to have it all together, Josh Tynan’s journey will feel like home. There’s a realness to him that can’t be faked or filtered. And while the episode offers no formula, it gives something better: permission to be in-process.

So go ahead, let this be your nudge to eavesdrop on the full conversation — available quietly and without fanfare on the @HolisticCircle YouTube channel. You might not find all the answers, but you’ll definitely find yourself laughing, thinking, and, if you’re lucky, embracing your own glorious mess.

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